Hannah Gadsby: Neurodivergence & The Exfoliation of Shame

Hannah Gadsby joins for a conversation about neurodivergence, relationships, and shame. Gadsby describes how a later-in-life autism diagnosis reshaped the way they understand themself — a process they call an "exfoliation of shame." The episode digs into why neurodivergent and neurotypical people can experience the same interaction so differently, and why an ordinary "casual" conversation can feel like a marathon for someone who is masking. Gadsby also makes the case for not taking other people's differences personally, and explains what changed when they gave up self-deprecating humor and stopped apologizing for who they are. (This is a best-of re-air.)