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The Mel Robbins Podcast · August 17, 2026 · 01:09:11

Former CIA Spy: How to Eliminate Self-Doubt, Build Confidence, and Protect Yourself in Today’s World

Mel Robbins sits down with former CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez to explore how spy tradecraft translates into everyday confidence and personal resilience. Jonna explains why courage isn’t something you wait to feel but something you build through preparation, and she unpacks the real signs that someone is lying—including why direct eye contact is not the reliable signal most people assume. She shares the art of making an operative disappear in plain sight by altering tiny details, and she reflects on loss, reinvention, and the hard-won wisdom that you never truly start over because you bring all your experience with you.

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Canon

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Courage isn’t something you either have or don’t; it’s built by knowing what to do, preparing yourself, and confronting what scares you.

Curious

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When someone is lying, they often over-explain, add unnecessary details, or push too hard for belief—efforts that signal deception rather than truth.
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The common belief that liars avoid eye contact is wrong; skilled deceivers often maintain strong eye contact, making it an unreliable indicator.

Highlights

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Disappearing in Plain Sight via Small Detail Changes
Jonna would change the smallest details—a hairstyle, a walk, a piece of clothing—to make a person unrecognizable, even to those who knew them.
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You’re Never Starting Over; You’re Building on Everything You’ve Done
When you make a major change, you don't erase your past; you bring all your skills, experience, and resilience with you into the next chapter.
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Use Small Steps to Tackle Overwhelming Problems
When a problem feels too big to solve, breaking it into small, concrete steps makes it manageable and reduces paralysis.
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Nothing Meaningful Is Accomplished Alone
Every high-stakes operation Jonna undertook relied on a team, and she emphasizes that personal achievements are almost always supported by others.

References

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Argo — Jonna Mendez and Tony Mendez — Jonna co-authored the bestselling book about the CIA operation that inspired the Academy Award-winning film.

Misc

✧Created disguises convincing enough to fool the President of the United States and the Secret Service.
✧Co-authored the bestselling book Argo with her late husband, Tony Mendez.
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