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The Happiness Lab · October 12, 2026 · 44m

What Gets Lost When We Text Instead of Talk with Dr. Nick Epley

Dr. Laurie Santos talks with psychologist Nick Epley about how the medium of communication—text, voice, or in-person—affects our ability to understand each other and feel connected. Epley shares research showing that we underestimate the benefits of voice and in-person interaction, often choosing the easiest option, and that small shifts like picking up the phone rather than texting can yield surprising boosts in happiness and social connection.

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We underestimate how much voice communication improves understanding and connection compared to text
People consistently choose text for convenience but fail to realize that hearing a voice reveals a thoughtful mind and fosters greater connection.
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People greatly exaggerate the awkwardness of talking to strangers
We anticipate uncomfortable interactions with strangers, but actual conversations are overwhelmingly pleasant once started.

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