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Being Well · September 21, 2026 · 1h 33m

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy: What the Critics Get Right (and Wrong) w/ Dr. Ellen Hendriksen

Clinical psychologist Dr. Ellen Hendriksen joins Forrest to walk through the history and evolution of cognitive behavioral therapy — from its behaviorist roots through the cognitive revolution to today’s mindfulness-informed third wave. They tackle the most common critiques: that CBT can feel reductive or like “spreadsheet therapy,” why it sometimes backfires with trauma or highly intellectual clients, and its complex relationship with insurance. The conversation then applies a CBT lens to Ellen’s own specialties — self-criticism, perfectionism, procrastination, and social anxiety — offering concrete ways to work with the two ingredients of perfectionism and break the link between perfectionism and paralysis.

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Hendriksen traces CBT’s evolution from first‑wave behaviorism, through second‑wave cognitive therapy pioneered by Aaron Beck, to third‑wave mindfulness‑based approaches.
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CBT as 'Spreadsheet Therapy' — The Reductive Critique00:07:54
A common criticism is that CBT can feel overly mechanical, like filling out worksheets, and insufficiently addresses deep emotional texture or relational patterns.

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