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Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus · November 26, 2025 · 1h 3m

Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Ruth Reichl

Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Ruth Reichl
Show Notes

Julia Louis-Dreyfus replays a Season 1 conversation with food writer and editor Ruth Reichl. They discuss Reichl’s bold career moments—like her undercover Le Cirque review and greenlighting a provocative article by David Foster Wallace at Gourmet. The conversation turns personal as Reichl shares stories about growing up with a mother who had bipolar disorder, how cooking and food helped her process grief, and why she believes in always doing things that scare you. Julia also calls her mom Judith for a dinner recommendation to serve if Reichl ever came over.

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Highlights

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The Infamous Le Cirque Review
Ruth Reichl recounts her legendary undercover New York Times review of Le Cirque, where she dined as an anonymous patron and then as herself, revealing stark double standards.
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Greenlighting David Foster Wallace in Gourmet
As editor of Gourmet, Reichl approved a controversial, deeply reported piece by David Foster Wallace that broke the magazine’s usual mold.
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Growing Up with a Bipolar Mother
Reichl opens up about living with a mother who had bipolar disorder and how that shaped her childhood and relationship with food.
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Processing Grief Through Food
Reichl explains how cooking and eating became her primary tools for moving through grief after losing people close to her.
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Editorial

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Always Do Things That Scare You
Ruth Reichl advocates for consistently leaning into fear, crediting that mindset for her most meaningful professional and personal leaps.
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Misc

✧This is a replay from Season 1 of the podcast.
✧Julia’s mom Judith Bowles suggests what Julia should cook for Ruth when she visits.
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