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This Week in Startups · August 3, 2026 · 1h 02m

How Bespoke faked AI until it actually worked (w/ Akemi Tsunagawa) | E2320

Akemi Tsunagawa, founder of Bespoke, shares how her travel concierge chatbot started as humans manually answering queries behind the scenes—a 'fake it till you make it' approach that landed Narita Airport as a client. The conversation explores Japan's tourism boom, the accelerating population decline, and how the labor shortage is driving both AI adoption and a reexamination of immigration policy. Akemi describes her thesis: first solve the labor gap with people, then build the technology to automate, exemplified by Bespoke's expansion into shipyard robots. They also discuss the 'akiya' abandoned home renovation trend and the cultural resistance to foreign labor in Japan.

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Novel

Labor gap first, then build the tech
Akemi Tsunagawa's thesis: first solve the labor shortage with human-driven processes, then develop the technology to automate them.

Highlights

Humans-as-AI: Bespoke faked its travel concierge chatbot
Bespoke's initial chatbot was actually staff manually answering tourist questions, a 'fake it till you make it' strategy that landed Narita Airport as a customer.
Japan's demographic crisis as an opportunity
Japan's rapid population decline and labor shortage are forcing both AI adoption and a reconsideration of immigration policy.

Editorial

AI already taking more jobs than people realize
Akemi argues that AI job displacement is happening faster than the media reports, hidden behind gradual automation.

Misc

Referenced the satirical film 'A Day Without a Mexican' to illustrate the sudden impact of immigrant labor absence.
Discussed the 'akiya' boom of renovating abandoned houses in Japan as a tourism trend.
Akemi cited Paul Graham's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' as a philosophy behind their early manual chatbot.
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