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Odd Lots · May 25, 2026 · 1h 8m

What It Takes to Run One of London's Most Popular Pubs

Ashley Palmer-Watts, Oisin Rogers
Show Notes

A deep dive into the economics and operations of London's Devonshire pub, featuring co-founders Oisin Rogers (publican) and Ashley Palmer-Watts (chef). The episode explores why two pubs close daily in England, what distinguishes a good pub from a bad one, the impact of the 2007 smoking ban on pub culture, the physics of pouring the perfect pint of Guinness, and how ingredient cost inflation doesn't always translate to menu price increases.

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Curious

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Ingredient Cost Inflation Doesn't Always Drive Menu Prices
Ingredient cost increases (beef, scallops, beer) don't always correlate with menu price increases; publicans must balance cost pressures against customer price sensitivity and market expectations.
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Highlights

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Pub Closures as Macro-Economic Indicator
Two pubs close daily in England (Q1 2026), signaling broader economic stress in the hospitality sector and consumer spending patterns.
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Editorial

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The Smoking Ban Fundamentally Redefined Pub Culture
The 2007 indoor smoking ban changed what a pub meant to Londoners — shifting it from a smoke-filled refuge to a family-friendly venue, with unexpected consequences for atmosphere and customer behavior.
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The Physics and Craft of Pouring a Perfect Pint of Guinness
Pouring the perfect pint of Guinness requires precise control of temperature, gas mixture (nitrogen and CO2), tap angle, and timing — small deviations produce noticeably inferior results.
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What Makes a Good Pub vs. a Bad One
A good pub combines consistent quality (in beer service, food, and atmosphere), authentic community function, and attention to detail; Rogers rejects the 'gastropub' label as it misrepresents what they actually do.
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Misc

✧Approximately two pubs per day closed in England in Q1 2026
✧The £10 pint has become a reality in London's pub scene
✧Oisin Rogers dislikes the term 'gastropub' — suggests it misrepresents what they do
✧The 2007 indoor smoking ban fundamentally altered pub culture and customer behavior
✧Ashley Palmer-Watts created a Victorian-era meat fruit dish for Jony Ive
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