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Modern Wisdom · August 20, 2026 · 2h 33m

Jocko Willink, Matt McCusker & Jeff Dye - Mostly Wise #3

Chris Williamson, Jeff Dye, Jocko Willink, Matt McCusker

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, Chris Williamson reunites with Jocko Willink, Matt McCusker, and Jeff Dye for their third Mostly Wise installment. The conversation spans military life, including Navy SEAL training, the use of dolphins in warfare, and the 25mm sniper rifle that no one would build. They also delve into personal topics like sobriety, the challenges of dating, and the surreal experience of waking up to the Iraq War. It's a mix of humor, storytelling, and candid reflections on life and conflict.

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Highlights

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How Embarrassment Pushed Jeff Into Sobriety00:51:14
Jeff Dye shares how a moment of embarrassment led him to quit drinking.
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Why a 25mm Sniper Rifle Should Never Exist01:46:23
Jocko tells the story of a 25mm sniper rifle that was so powerful and destructive that no manufacturer would produce it after testing.
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Do Dolphins Work for the Navy SEALs?00:24:35
The hosts discuss whether the Navy actually trains dolphins for missions like mine detection or assassination.
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The Reality of Waking Up to the Iraq War01:58:31
Jocko describes what it was like to be in the military when the Iraq War began, waking up to the news of the invasion.
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Misc

✧The story of a 25mm sniper rifle so powerful that no manufacturer would produce it after testing.
✧Discussion about whether the Navy trains dolphins for missions like assassination.
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