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The Ezra Klein Show · August 4, 2026 · 01:18:15

The A.I. Revolt Is Here

Jasmine Sun
Show Notes

Jasmine Sun, who covers AI's internal culture and its growing public opposition, joins Ezra Klein after a reporting trip through the Midwest. They discuss the emerging bipartisan backlash against AI data centers—exemplified by New York's statewide moratorium and over 100 local proposals—and what it signals about AI's real-world political friction. The conversation explores whether the resistance is driven by the physical infrastructure itself or a broader unease with AI, and what tech companies must learn if they hope to maintain their momentum.

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Highlights

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The Data Center Backlash
An overwhelming majority of Americans now oppose data center construction near their homes, with moratoriums in over 100 localities and a one-year statewide pause in New York.
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Digital Momentum vs. Real‑World Friction
AI’s rapid digital progress is now running into the messy, slow politics of physical infrastructure, where community opposition can halt projects regardless of technological promise.
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Editorial

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What AI Companies Can Learn From the Growing Movement
The rising opposition should teach AI companies to engage communities early, build trust, and sell a positive vision rather than dismiss concerns.
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References

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The Maniac — Benjamin Labatut (2023) — Recommended by the guest, likely for its historical lens on scientific ambition and unintended consequences.
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The Technology Trap — Carl Benedikt Frey (2019) — Recommended, connecting past waves of automation anxiety to contemporary fears about AI-driven job displacement.
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The Art of Gathering — Priya Parker (2018) — Recommended, perhaps as a counterpoint on how intentional human connection might survive in an AI-saturated era.
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