Sara Bareilles: The Magic of Grief

Sara Bareilles joins the hosts to discuss her new album and documentary Good Grief. She shares how infertility, loss, and grief became the creative wellspring for the project, reframing grief as love that has everywhere to go. They explore why avoiding pain backfires, the art of 'worshiping your weather' instead of fearing feelings, and what it means to trust that life will hold you. This conversation weaves music, mental health, and the terrifying practice of telling the truth.