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We Can Do Hard Things · May 12, 2026 · 1h 5m

(BEST OF) Mothers & Sons with Ocean Vuong and Chase Melton

Chase Melton, Glennon Doyle, Ocean Vuong

Glennon Doyle sits down with her son Chase and his hero, poet and novelist Ocean Vuong, to explore motherhood as a force beyond the traditional role—one that works through art, connection, and people who truly see our children. The conversation weaves together reflections on raising boys, surviving trauma, grief as a gateway to deeper humanity, and the quiet recognition that parenting is never a solitary act. Ocean shares insights from his own experience of loss, while the three explore how mentorship and witnessing reshape what it means to mother and be mothered.

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Highlights

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Art and Connection as a Form of Mothering
Art, mentors, and deep connection can 'mother' us—providing the witness, safety, and mirroring that formal motherhood provides, regardless of the relationship's form.
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What Boys Learn About Survival—and How That's Changing
Traditional narratives teach boys survival through isolation and self-reliance; vulnerability and connection are being reframed as equally essential survival skills.
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Grief as a Gateway to Deeper Human Connection
Loss and grief, rather than isolating us, can open us to more profound empathy, vulnerability, and connection with others.
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Editorial

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The Moment a Child Feels Truly Seen
Being truly seen by another person—having your inner world recognized and reflected back—is a foundational human need that shapes how a child experiences safety and belonging.
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We Don't Parent Alone—It Takes a Village
Parents carry the quiet knowledge that they cannot fully mother their children by themselves; they need mentors, teachers, writers, and other adults who can see and shape their kids.
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References

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Night Sky with Exit Wounds — Ocean Vuong — Poetry collection that established Vuong's voice
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On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous — Ocean Vuong — New York Times bestselling novel; exploration of identity and family
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Time Is a Mother — Ocean Vuong — Latest poetry collection; reckons with his mother's death and grief

Misc

✧Ocean Vuong is a MacArthur 'Genius Grant' recipient and winner of the Whiting Award and T.S. Eliot Prize
✧Born in Saigon, Vietnam; currently lives in Northampton, Massachusetts
✧The episode title signals this is a 'Best Of' episode, suggesting it aired previously and is being re-released
✧Chase Melton is Glennon Doyle's son—this is a rare family episode where the son appears as a guest alongside the mother-host
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