Flip phones are so back

The Vergecast sits down with Kaiwei Tang, CEO of Light, to discuss the company's new Light Flip phone. After more than a decade making minimalist phones that still felt smartphone-adjacent, Light pivoted to a classic flip form factor. Tang explains the reasoning behind the design shift, how public opinion about smartphones is changing, and whether you can actually cure your tech problems by buying more tech. The conversation digs into the tension between offering a tool for digital wellness and the irony of selling a gadget to solve gadget addiction.