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The Tim Ferriss Show · September 18, 2026 · 2h 12m

#883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough

Tania de Jong, co-founder of Mind Medicine Australia, walks Tim Ferriss through the grassroots advocacy campaign that made Australia the first country in the world to permit prescribing MDMA and psilocybin for psychiatric conditions. She describes the personal experience that galvanized her work, the strategic decisions that turned regulatory rejection into a successful rescheduling application, and the coalition of scientists, clinicians, and philanthropists they built along the way. The conversation covers integration beyond the therapy room, the economics of scaling treatment access, and the lessons her team learned about persistence, resilience, and knowing when to try a different approach.

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The Australian regulatory playbook00:10:17
Tania de Jong recounts the multi‑year advocacy strategy that turned Australia into the first country to permit prescribing of MDMA and psilocybin for psychiatric conditions.
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Integration goes beyond the therapy session00:50:23
Both Tania and Tim emphasize that a psychedelic experience is only the start; lasting change depends on structured integration that includes therapy, nutrition, exercise, and lifestyle adjustments.

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