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Throughline · October 1, 2026 · 52m

How To Avoid The End of the World

Throughline revisits a story from the recent past about how scientists came to understand what drove the dinosaurs to extinction, and asks what that discovery can teach about avoiding a similar end. The episode connects that history to current reminders of life's fragility, including climate change, nuclear weapons, and AI. Guests include historian of science David Sepkoski, atmospheric scientist Owen Brian Toon, biographer Alec Nevala-Lee, Cosmos co-creator Ann Druyan, and journalist Andrew Revkin. The conversation explores how the study of extinction reshaped the way people think about catastrophic risk on a planetary scale.

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The Dinosaur Extinction as a Mirror for Current Global Threats
The episode uses the scientific story of what drove the dinosaurs extinct to frame current reminders of life's fragility, from climate change to nuclear weapons to AI.
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Catastrophic Thinking and the Value of Diversity
David Sepkoski's book Catastrophic Thinking examines how extinction science shaped ideas about catastrophe and the value of diversity.

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