The Gadget That's Better in Crowds Than Your Phone + Ring’s Founder Before Amazon Bought It | E2349

Alex Wilhelm and Lon Harris host two segments: first, Totem founder Carter Fowler demos his offline compass that finds friends at crowded events without cell service, and explains why Apple will never put mesh networking in an iPhone. Then they replay Jason Calacanis’s 2017 CES interview with Ring founder Jamie Siminoff, where he explains how a garage doorbell became Ring and declares he wants to go public — less than a year before selling to Amazon. The episode also touches on mesh networks in Ukraine and the early seeds of the Flock surveillance backlash.