From zero to NanoClaw

Gavriel Cohen, creator of NanoClaw and co-founder of NanoCo, explains how he built a container-isolated alternative to OpenClaw after security concerns with existing agent tools. He chose an MIT license, valuing community and credibility over code secrecy. The conversation explores the shift from writing code to architecting agent environments, NanoClaw’s 'skills over features' philosophy, and the governance layers enterprises need. Adam Stacoviak also makes the case for durable Agent Flow artifacts that prevent organizational context from being lost in chat.