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Super Soul · December 10, 2025 · 28m 12s

Super Soul Special: Trevor Noah: Born a Crime

Oprah Winfrey, Trevor Noah
Show Notes

In an interview at the Apollo Theater, Oprah Winfrey sits down with Trevor Noah to discuss his childhood in apartheid South Africa, his mother’s courage in raising him as a mixed‑race child whose very existence was illegal, and his improbable rise to host The Daily Show. The conversation explores the extremes of poverty, the hidden burdens of success captured in Noah’s term “black tax,” and the surprising richness of human connection that can flourish even in deprivation. Oprah remarks that Noah is the only famous person she has ever interviewed who grew up poorer than she did.

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The Black Tax
In his book Born a Crime, Trevor Noah coins and describes the “black tax”—the expectation that successful Black individuals are obligated to financially support extended family still living in poverty.
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Highlights

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A Mother's Risk During Apartheid
Trevor Noah's mother risked imprisonment and danger to raise him as a mixed‑race child during apartheid, when his very existence was illegal.
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Poorer Than Oprah
Oprah tells Trevor that he is the only famous person she's ever interviewed who grew up in deeper poverty than she herself experienced.
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Editorial

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Laughter Over Material Wealth
Trevor reflects that despite having very little, his family had something people with abundance sometimes lack: the ability to focus on the people around them.
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References

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Born a Crime — Trevor Noah (2016) — Trevor Noah's memoir about his childhood in South Africa under apartheid, referenced throughout the interview.

Misc

✧Oprah tells Trevor he is the only famous person she's interviewed who grew up poorer than she did.
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