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The Rich Roll Podcast · October 1, 2026 · 1h 38m
Black-ish Creator Kenya Barris On Turning Down A $100 Million Netflix Deal, The Cost of Success & Curiosity As A Superpower With Malcolm Gladwell
Kenya Barris (Black-ish creator) and Malcolm Gladwell (author, Revisionist History) join Rich Roll to explore their opposite storytelling styles: Barris mines his own life while Gladwell leaves his out entirely. They discuss Barris's Inglewood upbringing, the decision to walk away from a $100 million Netflix deal, and the shifting media landscape. The conversation touches on curiosity as a superpower and what it costs to stay true to one's creative voice.
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