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The Rich Roll Podcast · June 22, 2026 · 1h 16m

Radiohead’s Ed O’Brien on Depression, Trauma & Finding Light Again

Rich Roll speaks with Radiohead guitarist Ed O'Brien about his new solo album "Blue Morpho," born from a long depression. They discuss creativity as a pathway through mental health struggles, childhood trauma, the dark night of the soul, and the necessity of embracing uncertainty in the artistic process. The conversation also touches on the limits of AI in creative work and the unexpected synchronicity between Ed’s album and Rich’s own book. Throughout, O'Brien reflects on the transformative power of making art from pain.

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Highlights

Creativity born from depression
Ed O'Brien shares how his solo album "Blue Morpho" emerged from a prolonged depressive period, using the creative process to navigate and ultimately transcend that struggle.
The dark night of the soul as creative catalyst
O'Brien talks about experiencing a 'dark night of the soul'—a period of profound existential crisis—that forced him to confront himself before the album could take shape.
Childhood trauma’s lasting imprint
The conversation explores how unresolved childhood trauma later manifests in adult depression and creative blocks.
Surrender and embracing uncertainty in art
O'Brien emphasizes the importance of letting go of control and embracing uncertainty as an essential part of the creative process.
Synchronicity between album and book
O'Brien and Roll discuss the uncanny overlap between the themes of "Blue Morpho" and Roll's own book, which both circle transformation, darkness, and renewal.
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