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Odd Lots · June 15, 2026 · 32m

Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Carmen Li, Don Wilson
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Carmen Li, CEO of Silicon Data and Compute Exchange, discusses building infrastructure for GPU markets at scale. Working alongside DRW's Don Wilson, Li is constructing a GPU pricing index and spot marketplace to address the volatility and standardization challenges in compute procurement. The episode covers GPU price discovery, the economics of used compute hardware, and what it takes to create an entirely new asset class.

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Curious

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Used GPU Market Dynamics and Information Asymmetry14:30:00
Used GPU markets exhibit 'used car' dynamics — information asymmetry, uncertainty about actual condition and remaining lifespan, and pricing inefficiency.
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Novel

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GPU Markets as Critical Infrastructure00:00:00
GPU spot markets and futures markets are emerging as essential infrastructure for AI development, with potential to match or exceed the scale of oil markets.
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Highlights

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Standardization Problem in Compute Hardware08:15:00
Unlike traditional commodities, GPUs vary in model, age, memory, and condition, making standardization for index construction and pricing unusually complex.
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GPU Price Volatility as a Systemic Risk18:45:00
GPU prices swing wildly based on chip release cycles, AI adoption surges, and supply shocks, creating planning uncertainty for data center operators and researchers.
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Editorial

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The GPU Lottery — Allocation and Market Efficiency22:00:00
During GPU shortages, allocation becomes a lottery or favor-based system rather than price-driven, leading to inefficient outcomes and frustrated buyers.
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Misc

✧Don Wilson's earlier prediction: a GPU market bigger than oil
✧The 'GPU lottery' — scarcity and allocation mechanisms
✧Used GPU market compared to used car dynamics
✧City Winery live recording in New York
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