Modern Wisdom · October 8, 2026 · 2h 36m

CIA Whistleblower: “The Shadow Government Is Real” - John Kiriakou - #1160

Chris Williamson sits down with former CIA counterterrorism officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou to explore who truly controls the US government, the reality of psychological interrogation, domestic surveillance, leadership dynamics within intelligence, and legendary covert operations. The conversation spans coffee-fueled mornings, the ethics of espionage, and a surprising daily ritual.

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The Shadow Government Controls US Policy00:03:25

Kiriakou outlines his view that unelected intelligence and military officials form a shadow government that holds real power over US policy.

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CIA Surveillance of American Citizens00:20:37

Kiriakou warns that the CIA conducts surveillance on American citizens under legal loopholes, with expanded technological capabilities enabling mass data collection.

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