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Sean Carroll's Mindscape · March 24, 2025 · 80m

309 | Christof Koch on Consciousness and Integrated Information

Christof Koch on Integrated Information Theory (IIT) and the science of consciousness. After decades of research, Koch argues that consciousness is a fundamental feature of any system with sufficient integrated information — not just brains.

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Koch: meditation practitioners are doing first-person neuroscience — systematically exploring the structure of consciousness from the inside. Their reports correlate with what third-person neuroscience measures from the outside.
Koch: IIT suggests that consciousness is integrated information (phi) — a measurable quantity of any system. The 'self' is what a high-phi system feels like from the inside. There's no separate self; there's just the information integrated by the system.
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