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Making Sense with Sam Harris · July 31, 2026 · 01:25:35

#487 — Is AI Already Conscious?

Cameron Berg
Show Notes

Sam Harris speaks with Cameron Berg about whether current AI systems could be conscious. They discuss self-reports in LLMs, the hard problem of consciousness, the risks of creating suffering machines, and parallels to factory farming. The conversation also covers the alignment problem and the moral status of potential AI minds. Annaka Harris's upcoming book Unlocking Consciousness is mentioned.

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The Hard Problem of Consciousness and AI
Sam and Cameron discuss the hard problem of consciousness and how it applies to the question of AI consciousness.
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Highlights

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AI Self-Reports and the 'Bliss Attractor' State
They explore what language models say about their own consciousness, including the concept of a 'bliss attractor' state.
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Moral Risk of Suffering Machines and Factory Farming Parallel
The conversation draws parallels between potential AI suffering and the moral blind spot of factory farming.
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The Alignment Problem and AI Consciousness
They also touch on the alignment problem, the challenge of ensuring AI systems' goals are compatible with human well-being.
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References

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Unlocking Consciousness — Annaka Harris — Upcoming book mentioned in conversation.
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