Lex Fridman Podcast #482 · October 1, 2025 · 3h 15m

Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Pavel Durov — founder of Telegram (900M+ users). Left Russia after refusing to hand over user data. Arrested in France in 2024. The tension between digital privacy and government power. What happens when you build a platform that governments can't control.

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Canon

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False information spreads faster than truth

Durov on the censorship paradox: governments want to control Telegram to stop misinformation, but government censorship IS misinformation — it just comes from the state.

Claude ChatGPT Gemini

Highlights

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Building technology governments can't control is inherently political

Durov: he didn't intend to be political. He just built encrypted messaging. But refusing to give governments backdoor access IS political — whether you want it to be or not.

Claude ChatGPT Gemini

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