Lex Fridman Podcast #456 · January 6, 2025 · 3h 13m

Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a rare long-form conversation. Covers the daily reality of leading a country at war, the decision to stay in Kyiv when Russia invaded, what peace would require, and the personal cost of wartime leadership.

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Leadership under existential threat reveals character — Zelenskyy's choice to stay

Zelenskyy: when the US offered to evacuate him as Russia invaded, he replied 'I need ammunition, not a ride.' The decision to stay in Kyiv when assassination was likely changed the trajectory of the war.

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