The Joe Rogan Experience · July 30, 2026 · 2h 43m

#2533 - Diana Pasulka

Professor of religious studies Diana Pasulka joins Joe Rogan to discuss her latest book, "The Others: UFOs, AI, and the Secret Forces Guiding Human Destiny." The conversation explores how UFO belief systems resemble religious phenomena, the transformative potential of artificial intelligence as a hidden influence on humanity, and the role of government secrecy in shaping modern mythology.

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Highlights

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UFOs as Modern Religious Phenomena

Pasulka discusses how belief in UFOs functions similarly to religious belief systems.

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AI as a Secret Force Shaping Human Destiny

Artificial intelligence is portrayed as a transformative and potentially enigmatic influence on human evolution.

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The Role of Secrecy in Government and Non-Human Intelligence

Pasulka examines the persistent secrecy around UFO data and its impact on public understanding.

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