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Huberman Lab · August 3, 2026 · 2h 27m

How Your Immune System Works & How to Improve It

Dr. Max Krummel, a UCSF immunologist, breaks down the surveillance, recognition, and response functions of the immune system. He explains how aging, sleep, stress, and even mindset influence immune competence. The conversation spans thymic decline, how cancers evade detection, and the foundations of modern immunotherapy. Listeners gain a framework for understanding why season and time of day matter for immunization and how basic research translates into cancer treatments.

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Highlights

The Thymus Is the Training Ground for T Cells, and It Declines with Age00:35:57
Krummel describes how the thymus educates T cells to recognize threats while ignoring the body’s own tissues, and how thymic output drops dramatically as we age.
Sleep Disruption Weakens Immune Defenses00:47:28
Krummel outlines how insufficient or poor-quality sleep reduces the body’s ability to fight off infections and likely impairs the formation of immunological memory.
Immune Surveillance Happens Continuously, but Cancers Learn to Hide00:21:14
Krummel explains that the immune system constantly scans for abnormal cells, yet many tumors evolve ways to avoid being recognized or destroyed.
Stress and Meditation Modulate the Immune State01:13:14
Krummel discusses evidence that psychological stress and practices such as meditation can alter the molecular state of immune cells.
Immunotherapy Revolutionized Cancer Treatment by Unleashing T Cells00:02:18
Krummel recounts how insights into T cell regulation led to checkpoint inhibitor drugs that can cure previously lethal cancers for some patients.
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