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Honestly with Bari Weiss · June 16, 2025 · 1h 7m

Niall Ferguson and Dexter Filkins: Who Will Win the Israel-Iran War?

Bari Weiss discusses the early days of the Israel-Iran war with historian Niall Ferguson and journalist Dexter Filkins. They examine Israel's primary goal of ending Iran's nuclear program, the tactical challenges of destroying the deeply buried Fordow facility, and whether the U.S. will provide bunker-busting bombs. Ferguson argues that Israel's attack restores Western credibility at a moment when U.S. and allied resolve is being tested by China. The conversation also explores the possibility that the war could topple the Iranian regime and the uncertain geopolitical aftermath.

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Highlights

Israel's attack restores the credibility of the West
Niall Ferguson argued that Israel's strike on Iran restores the credibility of the West in a test of global power dynamics.
The tactical challenge of destroying Fordow
The episode highlighted the extreme difficulty of destroying Iran's Fordow nuclear facility, which is buried deep underground.
Israel-Iran war as a test of U.S. credibility against China
The conversation connected the Israel-Iran war to the larger U.S.-China geopolitical competition.
Scenarios for the fall of the Iranian regime
The episode examined whether the war could trigger the collapse of the Iranian regime and what might come next.

References

The Forever WarDexter Filkins (2008)Referenced as Filkins' book on war reporting
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