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Huberman Lab #257 · December 22, 2025 · 2h 30m
Transform Pain & Trauma Into Creative Expression
Artist David Choe — who painted Facebook's original murals and was paid in stock — on using creativity to process trauma, addiction, and pain. Raw, emotionally intense conversation about how suppression of the true self leads to addiction, and how creative expression provides a path back.
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Canon
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Choe's story illustrates the Canon: years of suppressing his authentic self (through drugs, performance, self-destruction) nearly killed him. Art became the practice through which he reconnected with who he actually is.
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Choe credits sobriety with unlocking creative capacity he didn't know he had. The substances he thought were fueling his art were actually suppressing his best work.
Misc
✧Choe was paid in Facebook stock for painting their headquarters — the stock was eventually worth ~$200 million
✧He's completely open about addiction, homelessness, and self-destruction in a way that's rare for someone at his level of success
✧Huberman and Choe have a visible rapport — this episode is more personal than most Huberman Lab conversations
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