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The Goal Digger Podcast · December 15, 2025 · 55m

939: A Conversation With My Mom About Time, Motherhood, and What Gets Passed Down

Jenna Kutcher sits down with her mother Sue Shelerud for a candid conversation about motherhood, identity, and the quiet power of showing up deeply for others. They explore the differences between leading with presence versus performance, and what gets passed down across generations when impact is measured by connection rather than volume. Sue shares the wisdom gained from decades of shaping lives in classrooms and hospital hallways, offering lessons for anyone seeking to build meaningful influence.

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Highlights

Impact Through Depth, Not Volume
Sue models that deep impact comes from showing up fully for a few people in quiet, sustained ways, not from loud self-promotion.
Presence as the Source of Influence
Leading with presence—being truly engaged and attentive—is more powerful than performing for attention or chasing visibility.
Creating Safe Spaces as a Superpower
Sue’s superpower was making people feel safe enough to confront hard truths, which allowed them to think differently.

Misc

Sue's career of deep presence in classrooms and hospital hallways contrasted with today's high-volume, platform-driven approach.
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