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The Ezra Klein Show · October 20, 2026 · 01:17:13

Trumpism Is Backfiring

Chrystia Freeland, former Canadian deputy prime minister and lead trade negotiator with the first Trump administration, joins to discuss why Trump's coercive approach to Canada has failed. Polling shows 41 percent of Canadians now consider the United States an enemy country, and Prime Minister Mark Carney walked away from trade talks in August, moving to diversify trade toward China and Europe. Freeland's new book, 'Unreliable Boyfriend,' provides the framework: a chaotic superpower that can't be relied upon forces its partners to hedge. The core lesson is that Trump's theory of power assumed the weaker party would capitulate — but Canada chose to absorb economic pain rather than submit.

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41% of Canadians Now View the United States as an Enemy
A recent poll found that 41 percent of Canadians now consider the United States an enemy country.
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Canada Diversifies Trade Away from the United States
Prime Minister Mark Carney is pursuing closer trade ties with China and Europe and walked away from trade talks with the Trump administration in August, moving toward a Jan. 1 tariff deadline.

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