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The Ezra Klein Show · July 7, 2026 · 1h 25m

A Radical Vision for Israelis and Palestinians

May Pundak, Rula Hardal
Show Notes

Ezra Klein interviews Rula Hardal and May Pundak, executive directors of A Land for All, about a confederation model for Israeli-Palestinian peace. Rather than pursuing a two-state or one-state solution, the confederation proposes two sovereign states with freedom of movement between them, grounded in the recognition that both peoples have claims to the land and desires for political self-determination. The discussion explores how this framework might address the intractable problems—security, violence, settlements, the right of return—that have defeated previous peace proposals.

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Novel

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The Confederation Model: Two States With Free Movement
A Land for All proposes a confederation of two sovereign states with freedom of movement between them, rejecting both separation and unification as false choices.
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Addressing Security and Right of Return Through Confederation
A confederation structure could theoretically allow Palestinian refugees to exercise right of return while maintaining Israeli security and demographic concerns through separate state sovereignty.
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Highlights

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Political Self-Determination vs. Territorial Separation
Both peoples can exercise political self-determination (controlling their own state institutions) while rejecting strict territorial separation.
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Editorial

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Why Traditional Solutions No Longer Fit Reality
The two-state solution is complicated by scale of settlements and Palestinian right of return; one-state solutions ignore both peoples' desire for political self-determination.
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Skepticism About Conditions for Peace
Even proponents acknowledge that the political conditions for any settlement—trust, leadership willing to compromise, security—barely exist.
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References

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The Holocaust and the Nakba — Bashir Bashir, Amos Goldberg (eds.) — Comparative historical trauma framework
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States of Denial — Stanley Cohen — Understanding collective denial mechanisms
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Israel: What Went Wrong? — Omer Bartov — Historical analysis of Israeli policy decisions
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Tomorrow Is Yesterday — Hussein Agha, Robert Malley — Peace process analysis

Misc

✧A Land for All is an active Israeli-Palestinian joint initiative, not a theoretical exercise
✧Hardal is Palestinian-Israeli, Pundak is Israeli—the founders themselves embody the model they're proposing
✧The confederation model explicitly rejects the false binary of separation vs. unification
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