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Empire · May 19, 2026 · 1h 14m

Figure Co-Founder: How Figure Became A $10B Business | Mike Cagney

Mike Cagney, co-founder of Figure, discusses how the company became the leading non-bank HELOC lender in the U.S. and achieved a $10B valuation. The conversation covers Figure's use of blockchain rails to scale capital markets infrastructure, the strategic decision to build Figure, tokenization of equities, the Provenance blockchain, and Cagney's vision for the future of crypto and financial infrastructure.

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Curious

Tokenization of Equities and Financial Assets45:42
Cagney discusses the strategy and timeline for tokenizing equities and other financial assets on blockchain rails, with Figure exploring this as a long-term capital markets evolution.

Novel

Blockchain Rails Reduce Capital Markets Friction03:20
Figure uses blockchain infrastructure to disrupt traditional capital markets by reducing settlement time, operational costs, and intermediaries in lending and capital markets infrastructure.
The Provenance Blockchain: Purpose-Built for Finance55:08
Figure developed Provenance, a blockchain specifically designed for financial applications, to avoid the constraints and features of general-purpose blockchains like Ethereum.

Highlights

Non-Bank Lending as Capital Market Disruption09:28
Figure became the leading non-bank HELOC lender in the U.S., demonstrating how fintech can scale lending outside traditional banking without charter constraints.

Editorial

Public vs. Private Company Trade-offs in Fintech01:01:46
Cagney reflects on the differences between running a public company (SoFi) and a private company (Figure), including capital access, quarterly pressures, and long-term strategy flexibility.

Misc

Figure achieved $10B valuation as a non-bank HELOC lender — challenging traditional banking infrastructure
Cagney previously founded SoFi, which ran Super Bowl ads — a marker of mainstream fintech adoption
Figure's blockchain strategy is about infrastructure efficiency, not hype — using rails to reduce settlement and operational friction
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