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Empire · September 7, 2026 · 1h 11m

Cloudflare CEO: The Man Deciding The Internet’s Next Business Model

Matthew Prince

Jason Yanowitz sits down with Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince to discuss how AI agents are becoming the dominant users of the internet. They explore the potential shift from advertising to micropayments as the internet's business model, why AI labs fear Google's dominance, and how AI is flattening organizational structures. Prince explains Cloudflare's role as a neutral infrastructure provider and the implications of 1,000x traffic from agents. The conversation covers whether blockchain can play a role in agent economies, what breaks in an agent-driven internet, and whether AI ultimately becomes the new interface to the web.

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Canon

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AI Flattens Organizations27:20
AI agents are enabling dramatically flatter company structures by compressing layers of middle management and automating coordination.
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Novel

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Micropayments for the Agent Internet43:59
As AI agents become the dominant users of the web, the economic model may shift from free, ad-supported access to micropayments at unprecedented scale.
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What Breaks in the Agent Internet01:01:09
The agent-driven internet introduces new vulnerabilities: malicious agents, spam at machine scale, and identity verification challenges.
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AI as the New Interface to the Internet01:07:30
The conversation culminates in the question of whether AI itself will supplant the traditional web browser as the primary interface to information and services.
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Highlights

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The Broken Internet: How the Ad Model Distorted Everything05:52
Matthew Prince argues that the advertising-based internet business model, dominated by Google, has created many of the problems the web faces today.
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