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EconTalk · June 8, 2026 · 1h 11m

The Self, the Crowd, and Social Contagion (with Luke Burgis)

Luke Burgis and Russ Roberts explore the tension between individual identity and social pressure. Burgis argues that the real challenge of community isn't finding one but resisting conformity within it, a dynamic rooted in mimetic desire. He warns that the disappearance of traditional rites of passage weakens people's capacity for major life commitments like marriage. Burgis shares his own journey from Wall Street to studying the Great Books in search of a differentiated self, and draws lessons for modern communities from Saint Benedict's 1,500-year-old monastic guide. The conversation also includes a moving personal ritual Burgis practiced with his dying father.

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Canon

Burgis argues that the hard part of community isn't finding one, but the social pressures to conform that threaten individuality.

Novel

Disappearance of Rites of Passage Undermines Life Commitments
Burgis suggests that the decline of traditional rites of passage makes it harder for people to enter into and sustain major life commitments like marriage.
Saint Benedict's Rule as a Blueprint for Modern Community
Burgis extracts lessons for today's communities from Saint Benedict's 1,500-year-old guide for monastic life.

Highlights

From Wall Street to the Great Books: Searching for a Differentiated Self
Burgis shares his own path—leaving a career in finance to study the Great Books—as a way to develop a strong, differentiated sense of self.
A Ritual with His Father Before Death
Burgis describes a moving ritual he practiced with his father before he died.

Misc

Burgis recounts leaving Wall Street to study the Great Books.
He describes a moving ritual he practiced with his father before his death.
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