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The Doctor's Farmacy · June 10, 2026 · 1h 22m

Is It Burnout Or Something Deeper? The High-Functioning Trap | Dr. Judith Joseph

Dr. Hyman speaks with psychiatrist Dr. Judith Joseph about high-functioning depression—a condition where outward success masks inner emptiness. Joseph, who led the first clinical study on the condition, explains how to distinguish it from burnout, how trauma and people-pleasing fuel it, and how screen habits affect mood. The conversation covers practical ways to reconnect with joy.

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Curious

Dr. Joseph's team conducted the first peer-reviewed clinical study on high-functioning depression, validating its existence as a distinct condition.

Highlights

Focusing on achievement and productivity doesn't automatically lead to fulfillment or happiness.
Burnout vs. High-Functioning Depression
Dr. Joseph explains the key differences between burnout and high-functioning depression, which are often confused.
Trauma and People-Pleasing as Chronic Stress Drivers
The episode links unresolved trauma and chronic people-pleasing to increased stress and emotional exhaustion.

Editorial

Screen Time's Impact on Mood
The discussion covers how phone and social media habits can contribute to mood disruption.
Reclaiming Joy from the Flatness
Dr. Joseph offers strategies to reconnect with joy when life feels emotionally empty.

Misc

Dr. Judith Joseph offers several self-assessments under the "Quiz" tab on her website, including tools for anhedonia, high-functioning depression, and trauma.
Mark Hyman reflects on his own experience chasing achievement and productivity while expecting fulfillment to follow.
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