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The Diary of a CEO with Steven Bartlett · May 11, 2026 · 1h 48m

Pulitzer Prize Historian: You Won't Notice Until It's Too Late!

Anne Applebaum

Anne Applebaum, Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and staff writer at The Atlantic, sits down with Steven Bartlett to discuss the slow erosion of democratic institutions. She explains how democracies collapse from within through incremental dismantling and corruption, emphasizing that the warning signs are often ignored until it's too late. Applebaum also examines the role of Big Tech leaders aligning with authoritarian power, the unprecedented preparation by U.S. allies for a potential betrayal, and the concept of 'Autocracy, Inc.'—the global alliance of autocracies. She argues that America may never fully recover from the institutional damage of the Trump era, leaving a lasting impact on both domestic governance and international stability.

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Canon

Applebaum explains that democratic breakdowns happen gradually, as elected leaders dismantle institutions from within, often with public support.

Novel

"Autocracy, Inc.": The Network of Authoritarian Regimes00:11:45
Applebaum's book 'Autocracy, Inc.' describes how today's authoritarian governments are not isolated but function as an interconnected alliance, sharing tactics and resources.

Highlights

Corruption Is the Clearest Warning Sign of Authoritarianism00:07:21
Applebaum points to systemic corruption as the earliest and most reliable indicator that a democracy is sliding toward authoritarian rule.
Big Tech Leaders Are Bending Toward Political Power00:33:59
Applebaum observes that tech CEOs are increasingly aligning themselves with authoritarian leaders to protect their business interests.
America's Allies Are Already Preparing for Betrayal00:39:07
Applebaum warns that European and Asian allies are quietly developing contingency plans for a United States that is no longer a reliable partner.

Editorial

America May Never Fully Return to Normal After Trump00:37:51
Applebaum believes that regardless of future elections, the institutional damage done during the Trump era may be irreversible.

References

Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the WorldAnne Applebaum (2024)
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