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Decoder · June 8, 2026 · 1h 16m

Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job

Mustafa Suleyman

Decoder host Nilay Patel talks with Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, about the company's approach to training new models, his criticisms of Anthropic's language around Claude's consciousness, the shifting Microsoft-OpenAI relationship, and the growing political and public pushback against AI. Suleyman also weighs in on whether current consumer AI products are compelling enough to overcome skepticism.

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Highlights

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Microsoft's Approach to AI Model Training
Suleyman discussed Microsoft's strategy for training new AI models, emphasizing the technical and strategic decisions behind their development.
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Criticism of Anthropic's Language Around Claude's Consciousness
Suleyman criticized Anthropic for describing Claude in terms that suggest consciousness, arguing that such language is misleading.
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The Microsoft-OpenAI Relationship: Breakup and New Dynamics
Suleyman addressed the evolving relationship between Microsoft and OpenAI, including the recent restructuring and increased competition.
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AI Polling and Political Pushback
Suleyman discussed the rising negative public sentiment and political opposition to AI, and how Microsoft is responding.
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Consumer AI Products and Overcoming Skepticism
Suleyman considered whether current consumer-facing AI products are compelling enough to change public opinion.
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References

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The Coming Wave — Mustafa Suleyman (2023)
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