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The Daily Stoic · August 19, 2026 · 00:24:52

Can You Just Shut Up? | Stoicism vs. Epicureanism: Enemies or Allies?

Ryan Holiday explores the power of listening and the vital practice of getting out of your own head before trying to understand another person. He then dives into the historical relationship between Stoicism and Epicureanism, challenging the common perception that these two schools were bitter rivals and revealing how they actually influenced and respected each other.

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Curious

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Stoicism and Epicureanism as Allies, Not Enemies
Despite their surface-level differences, Stoicism and Epicureanism shared significant common ground and mutual respect in the ancient world.
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Highlights

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Get Out of Your Own Head to Understand Others
To enter another person's mind, even briefly, you must first quiet your own internal monologue and truly listen.
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Editorial

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The Discipline of Shutting Up
Holiday argues that the ability to simply stop talking and listen is an underrated and essential Stoic practice.
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References

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Working — Robert Caro (2019) — Mentioned as an example of deep listening and research
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Art of Happiness — Epicurus — Core text of Epicurean philosophy mentioned in the comparison
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Lives of the Stoics — Ryan Holiday (2020) — Referenced for Stoic biographical context

Misc

✧The episode opens with a pointed challenge to shut up and actually listen before trying to get into someone else's head.
✧Holiday frames the Stoic-Epicurean relationship as more nuanced than the standard 'rivals' narrative, positioning them as allies in many respects.
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