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The Daily Stoic · July 1, 2026 · 1h 13m

Jo Ellis Served Her Country. Then They Made Her A Target.

Ryan Holiday interviews Jo Ellis, an Army National Guard aviator and Black Hawk helicopter pilot, about her journey from mechanic to pilot, her experience in SERE training, and the devastating impact of being publicly scapegoated after a false rumor falsely blamed her for a deadly aircraft collision over the Potomac. They discuss service, identity, courage, and the Stoic practice of resisting the urge to have opinions about everything.

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Canon

One of the most Stoic things we can do is resist the urge to have an opinion about things we don't understand or haven't personally investigated.

Curious

Forced Self-Confrontation in Extreme Conditions
Jo transitioned during SERE training (a military survival and resistance program designed to break soldiers psychologically), which forced her to confront the truth about herself under extreme duress.

Highlights

The Cost of Public Scapegoating
Jo Ellis was publicly blamed for a deadly aircraft collision over the Potomac based on a false rumor — she wasn't even present, but the internet turned her into a target because she's a trans service member.

Editorial

Service as Transcendence
Jo wanted to serve her country, fly helicopters, and be part of something bigger than herself — her motivation was not about personal achievement but about contribution.
Resilience Through Humor and Public Vulnerability
Jo appeared on Kill Tony, a comedy show where comedians roast each other and guests, demonstrating her ability to laugh at herself despite the public harm she experienced.

Misc

Jo Ellis was publicly scapegoated after a false rumor wrongly blamed her for a deadly Potomac helicopter collision — she wasn't even present
Her identity as a trans service member made her a target for online harassment based on a lie
She transitioned during SERE training, a military survival/resistance program that forced her to confront the truth about herself
Appeared on Kill Tony podcast (comedians roasting each other), showing her resilience and ability to laugh at herself
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