The Commuter's Paradox: Why We Misjudge Social Connection (With Nick Epley)

Katy Milkman speaks with Nick Epley about the gap between our instincts for social avoidance and the actual rewards of connecting with strangers. They explore why people default to earbuds and phones instead of conversation, and how intentional small choices to reach out can improve happiness and connection. The discussion includes Epley’s own experience of embracing social connection during a difficult time in his family’s life.