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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard · September 7, 2026 · 2h 32m

Lizzo

Lizzo joins Dax Shepard to talk about her journey from a Detroit church upbringing to Grammy-winning stardom. She shares stories of being mocked for 'talking white' and loving anime in Houston, losing her father at 19 who believed she could be the next great flute player, and playing in a dozen Minneapolis bands at once. The conversation covers the delayed success of 'Truth Hurts,' the story behind the vulnerable interview that sparked 'My Skin,' and why fame makes people fear the other shoe will drop. Lizzo also explains how she learned to turn insults back on bullies, a tactic she calls emotional judo.

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Highlights

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Whitney Houston brought the church to the club
Lizzo explains that Whitney Houston's vocal style and power came directly from the Black church tradition.
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'Truth Hurts' became a hit after she gave up on it
Lizzo's biggest song, 'Truth Hurts,' found success years after its release, long after she had stopped promoting it.
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The vulnerable interview that sparked 'My Skin'
An on-camera interview where Lizzo stripped down emotionally became the inspiration for her song 'My Skin.'

Editorial

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Turning insults into emotional judo
Lizzo describes how she learned to turn insults back on bullies, a tactic she likens to emotional judo.
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Fame creates a fear the other shoe will drop
Lizzo reflects that after achieving fame, there is a persistent anxiety that it will suddenly be taken away.

Misc

✧Grew up in a Detroit church where her uncle preached and her cousins made up the choir
✧Was mocked in Houston for 'talking white' and liking anime
✧Lost her father at 19, who told her she could become the next great flute player
✧Stripped down emotionally during an interview that sparked the song 'My Skin'
✧'Truth Hurts' became a hit years after she had already given up on it
✧Whitney Houston 'brought the church to the club'
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