Kelly McGonigal (on joy)

Psychologist and author Kelly McGonigal joins Dax to discuss the nature of joy and how it can exist even in the absence of a happy life. She shares her personal history growing up with a mirror twin, dealing with unexplained chronic pain, and how these experiences shaped her research. The conversation explores the power of connecting with strangers, the surprising positives of collective singing, and how she smuggled a message of compassion into her popular TED Talk on stress.