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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard · July 13, 2026 · 2h 1m

Jackie Tohn Returns

Jackie Tohn (Nobody Wants This, GLOW) joins Dax to talk about her BRCA mutation discovery and advocacy for genetic testing, the exhaustion of life-or-death medical choices, and how anxiety shifts after facing your worst fears. They also discuss the grind of Hollywood, learning to pivot instead of waiting for permission, and the relief of finally calming down after career success.

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Highlights

From Personal Crisis to Genetic Testing Advocacy
Jackie's father's cancer diagnosis led her to discover she carries a BRCA mutation, turning her into an advocate for genetic testing and preventative care.
Pivot Rather Than Wait for Permission
Instead of waiting for Hollywood gatekeepers, Jackie created her own opportunities by pivoting between acting, music, and comedy.
What Happens to Anxiety After the Worst Comes True
Jackie found that the reality of her father's cancer was less terrifying than the years of dreading it, reshaping her relationship with fear.

Editorial

The Relief of Proving Yourself
After the success of Nobody Wants This, Jackie felt she could finally stop trying so hard and relax.
The Weight of Medical Decision-Making
Jackie describes the profound exhaustion of constantly evaluating life-altering medical choices related to her BRCA status.

Misc

Jackie grew up on Long Island with two gym-teacher parents.
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