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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard · May 20, 2026 · 2h 1m

Dr. Elizabeth Letourneau & Luke Malone (on child sexual abuse prevention)

Dr. Elizabeth Letourneau, a leading child sexual abuse prevention researcher, and Luke Malone, an Emmy-nominated journalist, discuss the staggering prevalence of abuse and why society struggles to talk about it. They explain critical distinctions—between pedophilia and offending, and how much abuse is perpetrated by other children—and argue that prevention must be treated as a public health issue rather than solely a criminal matter. The conversation highlights how shame and stigma prevent both victims and those at risk of offending from seeking help, and that compassion and accountability must coexist for real change to happen. The episode, born from a reluctant interview that became a long collaboration, offers a blueprint for shifting from punishment to prevention.

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Novel

Prevention Must Be Treated as a Public Health Issue
Child sexual abuse prevention should be approached not just through criminal justice but as a public health problem requiring systemic solutions.

Highlights

Child Sexual Abuse Is Far More Common Than Discussed
The prevalence of child sexual abuse is staggering, yet the topic remains heavily stigmatized.
Pedophilia Is Not the Same as Offending
Many people confuse pedophilia—a sexual attraction to children—with actually abusing a child, but they are distinct.
A Significant Portion of Abuse Is Perpetrated by Other Kids
Much child sexual abuse is committed by minors, not adults.
Shame Prevents Help-Seeking and Enables Abuse
The intense shame associated with both experiencing abuse and having abusive impulses stops people from reaching out for help before harm occurs.

Misc

A reluctant interview turned into a long collaboration between the researcher and journalist, leading to sustained work on this sensitive topic.
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