The All‑In crew interviews the founders of Saronic, a defense startup building autonomous warships. They break down the US Navy’s first autonomous rescue in the Strait of Hormuz, the staggering 230‑to‑1 shipbuilding advantage that China holds, and why the Pentagon’s addiction to cost‑plus contracts leaves only 1% of the budget for autonomy. The conversation explores whether swarms of thousands of inexpensive robot ships could lock down a contested strait and what China’s armed robot dogs mean for a future Taiwan conflict, before closing with the surprise announcement of Port Alpha, a 4,000‑acre defense manufacturing hub in Brownsville, Texas.
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First Autonomous Rescue in the Strait of Hormuz00:04:56
The US Navy recently completed its first autonomous rescue operation in the Strait of Hormuz, using unmanned vessels to assist a distressed ship.
Killing Cost‑Plus: Why Only 1% of the Navy Budget Goes to Autonomy00:21:25
The conversation focused on the defense industry’s dependence on cost‑plus contracts, which stifle innovation and leave only 1% of the Navy’s budget for autonomous systems.
Swarm Warfare: Could 10,000 Corsairs Lock Down a Strait?00:25:55
The Saronic founders and hosts examined whether a swarm of 10,000 small autonomous vessels, dubbed Corsairs, could effectively blockade a 20‑mile strait like the Taiwan Strait.
China’s Armed Robot Dogs and the Taiwan Question00:31:25
China’s development of armed quadrupedal robots sparked a discussion about how AI‑powered weapons could directly threaten US forces in a conflict over Taiwan.