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The All-In Podcast · September 15, 2026 · 1h 4m

Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger

Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX, joins the All-In crew to discuss her journey from sales to running day-to-day operations, the modern multi-faceted SpaceX (rockets, Starlink, AI, and ties to X), and plans for direct-to-cell satellite service while retiring older rockets. Elon Musk joins mid-show to explain his views on AI risks, the need for peer review of frontier models, and what he meant by 'Dario is right.' The conversation also covers Gwynne and Elon's working relationship, the future of Starship and Terafab, skepticism around flying cars, and the prospect of merging Tesla and SpaceX.

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Gwynne Shotwell's path at SpaceX and working with Elon Musk1:45
Shotwell recounts her journey from early rocket sales to President and COO, describing the unique working dynamic of operating alongside Elon Musk.
SpaceX's modern diversification: rockets, Starlink, AI, and X6:45
Shotwell describes how today’s SpaceX spans launch services, global satellite internet, artificial intelligence applications, and relationships with X (formerly Twitter).

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